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erymanthus
4-cylinder Member
Malaysia
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 Posted - 24/04/2008 : 8:10:04 PM
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Originally posted by J195
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Originally posted by monios
my dad already booked the new 2.0 accord beige color. he straight away booked the car without test drive the car. he already felt in love with the look (he is quite a young heart type). he made a jugdement for booking after test drive my 7.5 accord last week..
i hope the new accord does not let my dad down. but need to wait 2 months lor...anyway i am happy for him. later can kongsi drive with his car..
Congrats ! I think he made the right choice. Unless later in the months, we hear some typical "Honda quality" issue in the Accord.
BTW, no Accord 2.0 for test drive. All Honda showrooms offer only 2.4 as test drive unit.
Hmm...anyone knows why?
Is it because the 2.0L is underpowered or something, that's why HM doesn't want people to test drive the 2.0L...later cannot sell if people don't like the 2.0L handling after test driving it....now most people who booked the 2.0L are going by faith coz they don't even know how it feels driving the 2.0L, right? |
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Pirate
V8 Member
Malaysia
1969 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2008 : 8:45:13 PM
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Originally posted by scud
Does this car still vibrate while idle?Lets's wait for Full report from the first batch owner.To be frank, QC is an issue.
Hi Scud,
To be honest, I did feel a little vibration on the steering of the 2.4 VTi-L tester at idling, in 'D'.
Hope this minor annoyance plagues just one or two cars (initial batch?) only.
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Pirate
V8 Member
Malaysia
1969 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2008 : 8:58:10 PM
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Originally posted by erymanthus
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Originally posted by J195
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Originally posted by monios
my dad already booked the new 2.0 accord beige color. he straight away booked the car without test drive the car. he already felt in love with the look (he is quite a young heart type). he made a jugdement for booking after test drive my 7.5 accord last week..
i hope the new accord does not let my dad down. but need to wait 2 months lor...anyway i am happy for him. later can kongsi drive with his car..
Congrats ! I think he made the right choice. Unless later in the months, we hear some typical "Honda quality" issue in the Accord.
BTW, no Accord 2.0 for test drive. All Honda showrooms offer only 2.4 as test drive unit.
Hmm...anyone knows why?
Is it because the 2.0L is underpowered or something, that's why HM doesn't want people to test drive the 2.0L...later cannot sell if people don't like the 2.0L handling after test driving it....now most people who booked the 2.0L are going by faith coz they don't even know how it feels driving the 2.0L, right?
Hmmm...this is like a sequel from Honda Malaysia and its dealers.
I could still vividly recall test driving a 2.4L Accord in 2004 and signing up for a 2.0 VT-i after it. In retrospect, I would not have gotten that K20A powered 7th gen Accord if the dealer had a 2.0 tester then!
Your guess is as good as mine what's the elusive "no registered tester" story of behind the 'new' R20 SOHC powered all-new Accord 2.0 VT-i 
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erymanthus
4-cylinder Member
Malaysia
198 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2008 : 10:30:36 PM
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If HM is confident, they should let people test drive the 2.0L and not try to hide anything.....i'm not saying they are...i'm just curious why they don't let people test drive the 2.0L since they already admitted that 60% of their current booking is the 2.0L which shows that more people out there are interested in the 2.0L or rather more affordable to buyers looking for a big sedan car...
honestly, i won't place a booking on the 2.0L until i test drive it.....it's a big amount of money...definately must try the handling and feel before buying right?....but i'm sure there are many out there who doesn't mind booking without test driving it purely due to the Honda badge or maybe it looks very attractive..... |
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monios
4-cylinder Member
Malaysia
229 Posts |
Posted - 24/04/2008 : 10:42:34 PM
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Originally posted by J195
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Originally posted by monios
my dad already booked the new 2.0 accord beige color. he straight away booked the car without test drive the car. he already felt in love with the look (he is quite a young heart type). he made a jugdement for booking after test drive my 7.5 accord last week..
i hope the new accord does not let my dad down. but need to wait 2 months lor...anyway i am happy for him. later can kongsi drive with his car..
Congrats ! I think he made the right choice. Unless later in the months, we hear some typical "Honda quality" issue in the Accord.
BTW, no Accord 2.0 for test drive. All Honda showrooms offer only 2.4 as test drive unit.
yea la..i didn't realize it after you mentioned no 2.0 accord for test drive. Last time i also did test drive the 2.4 one but booked the 2.0. finally i have to accept the less pickup in 2.0 
but it will be very sad if the new 2.0 accord have lesser pickup compared to the previous one. need to get more comments soon from those buyers |
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Ferarri
V6 Member
Malaysia
261 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 07:44:06 AM
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Chips,
We are very interested in the Honda Accord and would like to book the 2nd batch. When is the 2nd batch coming out?
I sat on the backseat of the honda accord 2.4, the bmw 5 series, Mazda6 and the Camry 2.4.
I find that Honda Accord is very comfortable and the backseat keep me in place. I slided around the camry, it is too smooth and bench like, doesn't provide the comfort I seek.
Off course, the ultimate in comfort is Bmw 5 series but I can't afford that.
The best family sedan so far is Honda Accord for me. I don't care about the 0-100 miles time because I will never use it as I am a lady and seldom drives.
Final question, should I book the 2.0 or 2.4? Is the 30k extra for the features of 2.4 worth it? I would like an objective comparison/ comment on what we are paying the 30k for, thank you.
From the specs (1st is 2.0 L, 2nd is 2.4 L) :-
Features 2.0L 2.4L
Alloy Wheels 16 inch 17 inch
Door mirror w/side light N Y
Towel Bar N Y (what is this?)
Interior
Interior Color Beige(cloth) Black (leather)
Leather Gknob/steer N Y
8 way power driver seat N Y
4 way power asst seat N Y
Power lumber support N Y (what is this??)
Foot light N Y
Control
Audio Sys Normal Premium
Subwoofer socket N Y
Cruise control N Y (important to us)
Paddle shift N Y (what is this?)
Electric rear sunshade N Y
Safety n Security
Dual side airbags N Y
3rd Brake Light N LED
Hydrophilic Door mirror M Y
Specifications
Grade 2.0 VTi 2.4 VTi-L
Engine Type SOHC i-vtec DOHC i-VTEC
Max Hp 156 180
Weight 1475 1525
Wheel size 16 x 6.5 JJ 17 x 7.5 JJ
Tyre size 215/60 R16 95H 225/50 R17 94V
Last but not least. Are we allowed to buy the Thai version and bring in to Msia? If so, what is the tax rate like? I know the thai version with navi is about 1.6 million baht with addtional 2 airbags.
Thanks for helping me out.
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cypy
4-cylinder Member
Malaysia
141 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 10:02:42 AM
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Originally posted by monios
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Originally posted by J195
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Originally posted by monios
my dad already booked the new 2.0 accord beige color. he straight away booked the car without test drive the car. he already felt in love with the look (he is quite a young heart type). he made a jugdement for booking after test drive my 7.5 accord last week..
i hope the new accord does not let my dad down. but need to wait 2 months lor...anyway i am happy for him. later can kongsi drive with his car..
Congrats ! I think he made the right choice. Unless later in the months, we hear some typical "Honda quality" issue in the Accord.
BTW, no Accord 2.0 for test drive. All Honda showrooms offer only 2.4 as test drive unit.
yea la..i didn't realize it after you mentioned no 2.0 accord for test drive. Last time i also did test drive the 2.4 one but booked the 2.0. finally i have to accept the less pickup in 2.0
but it will be very sad if the new 2.0 accord have lesser pickup compared to the previous one. need to get more comments soon from those buyers
hmm..sorry to say that i will never put in any money, even one sen for a car which i never tested. At least to sit in and feel it whether it suits you right or not.
2.0 accord have lesser pickup power if compare to previous gen ? Not really sure on that, but the stat on paper show it should be better. SOHC engine may give some edge to provide more torque in low end. But yet, it is to power up an accord - Japanese Sumo Body, nearly to 1500kg remains a big question. Some faith should be held by some buyers on Honda SOHC as huge car like CRV is also powered by SOHC. It shouldn't be problem maybe.
Do appreciate if some forummers or sifus can provide info on the new accord SOHC 2.0 pickup compare to other cars.
One thing guys, do you all notice all new accord 2.0, 2.4 and 3.5 come with Hydraulic Power Steering? Honda is still implementing some old school styles in thier latest product.
However, no doubt, hydraulic power steering provides more respone if compare to EPS.
Many things aren't there in the new 2.0 Accord.
-Leather gear knob
-Leather steering
-Cruise Control
-Front Sensor
-Door Mirror with Side Turn Light
those are the simple things many buyers were expecting i guess. And ya, it doesn't come with a foot light at the doors as well.
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bien335
V8 Member
Malaysia
818 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 10:37:42 AM
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Ferrari, its tower bar, not towel bar.
towel bar is to sidai the towel
Tower bar is basically the strut bar under the bonnet. Pop the 2.4's bonnet and you can see black bar running across the engine bay, connecting the strut towers, hence tower bar.
Paddle shifter is self explanatory. Look behind the steering wheel of the CP2 (2.4) and you can see the two 'paddles' which are used to override the automatic transmission.
Again, lumbar support is self explanatory as well. the drivers seat has an adjustable lumbar support. you can see an extra button on the side of the seat, which adjusts the lumbar bolster.
You said you've checked out the car. The sales staff should have been able to answer your questions.
You need an AP to import a car.
And to get things straight, the power rating is in PS, not BHP or HP. |
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Ferarri
V6 Member
Malaysia
261 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 10:51:27 AM
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Gee, thanks a lot, I was asking where the paddle shift was, but the sales staff never answered. He said the plus minus things were shiftronic or something. Sorry to mis spell tower! Now I know what it is, silly me.
So, which is a better buy? VSA is not available in the 2.0 litre, is that important?
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monios
4-cylinder Member
Malaysia
229 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 12:16:05 PM
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Hi Ferrari..Why buy honda accord? it doesnt suit to your name..hehe
anyway, i would rather go for 2.4L. The specs that most poeple want (including me) are there. Of course the extra 30k is a lot if you pay cash. but if you distribute it for 5 year period, it is just a few hundred extra only. so go for 2.4L la.. |
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beachboy
4-cylinder Member
122 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 12:28:57 PM
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Originally posted by monios
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Originally posted by J195
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Originally posted by monios
my dad already booked the new 2.0 accord beige color. he straight away booked the car without test drive the car. he already felt in love with the look (he is quite a young heart type). he made a jugdement for booking after test drive my 7.5 accord last week..
i hope the new accord does not let my dad down. but need to wait 2 months lor...anyway i am happy for him. later can kongsi drive with his car..
Congrats ! I think he made the right choice. Unless later in the months, we hear some typical "Honda quality" issue in the Accord.
BTW, no Accord 2.0 for test drive. All Honda showrooms offer only 2.4 as test drive unit.
yea la..i didn't realize it after you mentioned no 2.0 accord for test drive. Last time i also did test drive the 2.4 one but booked the 2.0. finally i have to accept the less pickup in 2.0
but it will be very sad if the new 2.0 accord have lesser pickup compared to the previous one. need to get more comments soon from those buyers
It is excited for G8 model. I like the sporty black interior for 2.4 liter. Our current G7 2.4 liter is beige color. Still, will not change so soon for G8 until we have been driving the current model for least 5 yrs as economical scale.
For better service, HM shall provide all available test models. I will say the 2.0 liter is not too bad if you compare to Camry 2.0 with heavier and less hp.
1435KG/150hp (G7) = 9.56Kg/hp
1505Kg/156HP (G8) = 9.65Kg/hp
Some more it is 5 speed automatic for better fuel consumption. If you want pick up, shift D to D3 to pick up like manual drive. If it is your budget for 2.0, then stick to it. If you wanna to invest additional 30K for 2.4 liter due to better hp, then go for it. 2.4 liter does improve significantly compared with G7.
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Des
4-cylinder Member
Malaysia
115 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 5:57:51 PM
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The car, esp the 2.4 is pretty attractive no doubt, but it runs on larger rims and wider tyres compared to the older model. Hence contributing to more resistance + the added weight. Ok, im not talking about 0-100 here. The question is whether the 10 bhp increase over the last model is enough to give good, decent performance to at least match the last model. It seems apparent that it will not be better off the line, but as everyone says, Accord buyers would least worry about the century sprint.
However, i hope the engine will not have to boom all the way to 5000 rpm every now and then to give decent acceleration and for overtaking maneuvers. I hope there will be a good review on it soon that will clear doubts. I sold my 7th Gen in Nov last year when I heard about this new Accord and was all geared up for it when I saw the engine specs, until I saw the dissapointing review in Sing Straits Times in the Kah motor website. Ok, maybe they're biased towards Toyota, so, I thought ill test drive it and also wait for some credible reviews on it before making a purchase decision.
It may be a car that will satisfy a first time buyer no doubt, but not necessarily a repeat buyer, esp when you expect your new investment to be better in all areas, not just size and comfort..no I didnt mean 0-100. :)
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wyefueng
2-cylinder Member
Malaysia
22 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 6:42:07 PM
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Originally posted by beachboy
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Originally posted by monios
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Originally posted by J195
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Originally posted by monios
my dad already booked the new 2.0 accord beige color. he straight away booked the car without test drive the car. he already felt in love with the look (he is quite a young heart type). he made a jugdement for booking after test drive my 7.5 accord last week..
i hope the new accord does not let my dad down. but need to wait 2 months lor...anyway i am happy for him. later can kongsi drive with his car..
Congrats ! I think he made the right choice. Unless later in the months, we hear some typical "Honda quality" issue in the Accord.
BTW, no Accord 2.0 for test drive. All Honda showrooms offer only 2.4 as test drive unit.
yea la..i didn't realize it after you mentioned no 2.0 accord for test drive. Last time i also did test drive the 2.4 one but booked the 2.0. finally i have to accept the less pickup in 2.0
but it will be very sad if the new 2.0 accord have lesser pickup compared to the previous one. need to get more comments soon from those buyers
It is excited for G8 model. I like the sporty black interior for 2.4 liter. Our current G7 2.4 liter is beige color. Still, will not change so soon for G8 until we have been driving the current model for least 5 yrs as economical scale.
For better service, HM shall provide all available test models. I will say the 2.0 liter is not too bad if you compare to Camry 2.0 with heavier and less hp.
1435KG/150hp (G7) = 9.56Kg/hp
1505Kg/156HP (G8) = 9.65Kg/hp
Some more it is 5 speed automatic for better fuel consumption. If you want pick up, shift D to D3 to pick up like manual drive. If it is your budget for 2.0, then stick to it. If you wanna to invest additional 30K for 2.4 liter due to better hp, then go for it. 2.4 liter does improve significantly compared with G7.
I think camry 2.0 is lighter at 1450 kg compared to accord 2.0 at 1475kg |
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scud
V8 Member
Malaysia
1718 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 9:47:53 PM
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Originally posted by Pirate
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Originally posted by scud
Does this car still vibrate while idle?Lets's wait for Full report from the first batch owner.To be frank, QC is an issue.
Hi Scud,
To be honest, I did feel a little vibration on the steering of the 2.4 VTi-L tester at idling, in 'D'.
Hope this minor annoyance plagues just one or two cars (initial batch?) only.
Ha..ha...old friend. Good to see you here again after your migration to a conti. |
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pralinescream
2-cylinder Member
Malaysia
47 Posts |
Posted - 25/04/2008 : 10:36:07 PM
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Originally posted by erymanthus
If HM is confident, they should let people test drive the 2.0L and not try to hide anything.....i'm not saying they are...i'm just curious why they don't let people test drive the 2.0L since they already admitted that 60% of their current booking is the 2.0L which shows that more people out there are interested in the 2.0L or rather more affordable to buyers looking for a big sedan car...
ooooooo, its painfully obviously common sense dat they offer ONLY the most likely sale model for test drive.
test drive isn't cheap; test drive cars usually sell for a loss.
usually many ppl including serious, decision-makers and just for-fun type will go test drive.
better choose model with higher profit, drives better to promote.
den for many of those who kenot afford 2.4, at least can save face a bit and can buy 2.0, still accord-mah!
these type of ppl won't mind pickup less, specs less a bit;
but for decision maker, 2.4 accord will make better challenge against compatithor like camry and mazda 6.
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yet, another golden nugget of advice from pralinescream ®
If You're Playing in My Sandbox, You Follow My Rules! |
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kapultek
V6 Member
Malaysia
400 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2008 : 12:23:43 AM
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| 2.4 is to expensive...surely 2.0 will be more on the road...design is very sleek |
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bien335
V8 Member
Malaysia
818 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2008 : 02:21:22 AM
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OMGZZZ
Putting the shifter in D3 WILL NOT make the car pick up faster.
Better leave the shifter in D and floor the throttle.
And the power to weight ratio is terbalik. It's supposed to be hp/kg.
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CiViC MinDeD
4-cylinder Member
Malaysia
176 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2008 : 03:10:21 AM
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| Want cars to be cheap in Malaysia? Ask Big Brother dun Tax so much on everything... jeez... can't even get a decent meal nowadays without paying 20 ringgit on taxes... |
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cvchua
V12 Member
Malaysia
2574 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2008 : 08:03:30 AM
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the new accord is a quite beauty indeed. It looks even better in its steel. Test drove the 2.4 during it lauch. Its drive has the conti feel while the setting in the dash is simply "ompphh!!"
Against camry or Mazda6, accord has the edge in most aspect.... definitely a better buy.... |
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J195
4-cylinder Member
Malaysia
205 Posts |
Posted - 26/04/2008 : 12:33:10 PM
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Originally posted by pralinescream
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Originally posted by erymanthus
If HM is confident, they should let people test drive the 2.0L and not try to hide anything.....i'm not saying they are...i'm just curious why they don't let people test drive the 2.0L since they already admitted that 60% of their current booking is the 2.0L which shows that more people out there are interested in the 2.0L or rather more affordable to buyers looking for a big sedan car...
ooooooo, its painfully obviously common sense dat they offer ONLY the most likely sale model for test drive.
test drive isn't cheap; test drive cars usually sell for a loss.
usually many ppl including serious, decision-makers and just for-fun type will go test drive.
better choose model with higher profit, drives better to promote.
den for many of those who kenot afford 2.4, at least can save face a bit and can buy 2.0, still accord-mah!
these type of ppl won't mind pickup less, specs less a bit;
but for decision maker, 2.4 accord will make better challenge against compatithor like camry and mazda 6.
cheerios!
pralinescream, you "speak" like a Honda SA. Anyway, sorry I don't agree with your theory. If what you said is right, why Honda don't offer Civic 2.0 as a test drive unit ? As you know, only 1.8 Civic is offered as default test drive model for all branches.
""den for many of those who kenot afford Civic 2.0, at least can save face a bit and can buy 1.8, still accord-mah!""
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